russo
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Post by russo on Apr 10, 2013 14:26:27 GMT -5
I saw an article on the news about a Clemson student who is trying to get the City Council to begin looking into banning the use of plastic shopping bags. The Mayor said the proposal was well received and "seemed to have support from the council". I am encouraged that "THE ENLIGHTENED ONES' are looking out for not only us but the entire planet!
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Post by dreinert on Apr 11, 2013 12:27:31 GMT -5
Interesting, but I'm sure this student realizes that there are places to put your plastic shopping bags for recycling. When I read something like this I also can't help but think, how many plastic water bottles does he go through in a week, or takes along with him as he goes to throw his plastic frisbee around the park, along with the city council who probably had plastic bottles of water sitting in front of them at the meeting, while they all plan ahead for their Memorial Day picnics where they'll get out bags of plastic utensils to eat after spraying yard guard all around to keep the bugs away. If there's anything I've learned during my years is that while there are a great many people, not only at Clemson, who always have some vision for what's best for the rest of us and the planet, there are far more hypocrites.
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Post by upset on Jan 29, 2014 15:59:52 GMT -5
Rick Cotton the adminsitrator of Clemson was given a new contract and he was paid $131,000 a year.
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Post by geraldgarrett on Jan 30, 2014 13:30:31 GMT -5
You know, at some point we're just going to have to accept that the government, the health care racket, the lawyers, the Chinese and Wall Street (did I just repeat myself there?) are going to wind up holding 95 percent of all the wealth in this country, and us po' folks are just going to have to settle for dividing up what's left. Either that, or we need to launch a new American Revolution.
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Post by conservative on Jan 30, 2014 13:47:46 GMT -5
Gerald, If you're taking names, sign me up.
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Post by geraldgarrett on Jan 31, 2014 1:30:09 GMT -5
Oh, I'd love to foment and/or lead a revolution, Conservative, but I'm not sure we could come up with a cause that everybody could unite behind. Right now, if you put three "conservatives" in a rowboat and ask them to chart a course, we'd end up paddling in circles. "Starboard!" ... "No, port!!" ... "No, wait, go back!!!"
Of course, if we did try to start a rebellion with a stunt like the Boston Tea Party, we'd probably NOT face a treason charge. More likely, we'd get arrested for something totally lame, like dressing up like Indians (politically incorrect), polluting the harbor (dang that EPA), carrying a weapon capable of firing more than one round without reloading (an "assault" muzzleloader, or maybe a two-string bow?), or not having up-to-date health insurance (Romneycare/Obamacare - same family, different Daddy.)
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Post by conservative on Jan 31, 2014 10:42:24 GMT -5
It's a interesting mind game to compare the present political state-of-affairs with past periods. Hindsight reveals both the crises and outcomes of history. We're inside the donut now, unable to see out. I think the overriding crisis now is the size and complexity of the Federal Government combined with an evidentiary total absence of accountability from both elected and bureaucratic officials. If no one has to take ultimate responsibility for recent Constitutional illegalities, mistakes and incompetence(the list is long in a short period of time)then we're flyng blind, sailing rudderless, falling without a parachute. All result in crashes. Voters are supposed to be the arbiters but we seem to be failing. The "information age" has been hijacked by Liberal messengers and is used to create a "fog of war" that has obfuscated our responsibilities as individual citizens. We've allowed Politicians and their handlers to slice and dice us into ever smaller focus groups. Their only objective seems to be to discover who has their hand out and what to put in it.
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Post by alexsaitta on Feb 1, 2014 10:58:57 GMT -5
Of course, if we did try to start a rebellion with a stunt like the Boston Tea Party, we'd probably NOT face a treason charge. More likely, we'd get arrested for something totally lame, like dressing up like Indians (politically incorrect), polluting the harbor (dang that EPA), carrying a weapon capable of firing more than one round without reloading (an "assault" muzzleloader, or maybe a two-string bow?), or not having up-to-date health insurance (Romneycare/Obamacare - same family, different Daddy.) This is why I think Gerald is the best writer in the county. Where are you going to read something more clever/ funnier than that? I'm still laughing even though I read it five minutes ago. For a city administrator with a budget I think of $12 million, that seems like a lot of money.
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Post by strangerintown on Apr 28, 2014 16:21:25 GMT -5
I UNDERSTAND THE CLEMSON COUNCIL HAS WOKEN UP WITH A HEADACHE THIS MORNING.
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Post by geraldgarrett on Apr 28, 2014 22:10:23 GMT -5
Other than having to continually attempt to govern the ungovernable (i.e., trying to dictate to the rest of Pickens County), what has happened to them now?
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Post by alexsaitta on Nov 1, 2014 17:43:43 GMT -5
www.greenvilleonline.com/story/news/local/pickens-county/2014/10/21/clemson-city-council-doubles-pay/17657479/Clemson city council doubles it pay. I think the procedure that a public body determines it own pay is wrong. Below there was a discussion of voting on your own pay raises, citing ethics issues voting for a pay raise for a spouse who is a teacher. These guys are voting on their own pay. Why isn't that a conflict of interest under the law? City councils, county councils and the state legislature vote on their own pay. There needs to be some kind of arms length approval of this or at least a review. How should it be set-up, though? School boards are different. The state legislature/ local delegation sets school board pay. Trustees receive $3,000 a year. That pay level has not been increased since 1988. Trustee pay level is low relative to the county council and most of the city councils in the county. School board trustee pay around the state is all over the map. Maybe that is not the solution either. Here are the numbers as of 2011. www.pickenspolitics.com/alex_00004f.htmMy general feeling is something is wrong, though. Brain storming here... Levels for county, city and school board officials should be reviewed by some third party and set to a reasonable level. Once those levels are set, (and this part I feel strongest about) the increases should be limited to the 2% and 3% annual raises that employees get. Clemson city council giving itself a 100% increase is excessive and uncovers a flaw in the system.
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